• I am not trying to split the community. However, someone IS trying to destroy it - they have hoarded information, withheld long sought updates, threatened to delete the whole forums (last week), and bans anyone who says that maybe that's not great. This person has already split the community - releasing two separate parallel versions of the mod, then wondering why uptake on one was not as all-encommpasing as originally envisioned. For over a year people have asked for 0.3.7 and 0.3dl to be merged, while he just sat there and wondered if there was actually anyone that wanted it. He has said that he believes the community is dying, SA:MP is dying, and only has a year or two left; and is content to just watch it happen. Some of us disagree and have tried to convince him to do something - either carry on or pass on the reigns. The community shrinking is probably inevitable, but it will only die if not supported - and that's what happening right now.
  
  
  
  There is an unofficial discord, where yes people sometimes have fun and joke around with each other. But it wasn't founded as a place for rebellion. It came in to being because people liked SA:MP, and people use Discord, thus the community naturally wanted to combine both. There's an unofficial forums, Kalcor himself has previously said if you don't like these ones, make your own, but now bans those that do. However neither the forums nor the discord are run by me. They are simply a result of the official areas failing to move forward. That's not splitting, that's progressing.
  
  
  
  
• I am not trying to start a rival to SA:MP. Two of the words there are wrong "start", and "rival". I'm not "starting" anything, I was trying to gauge further interest in a project well under way. These are the commits from just the last year:
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  There's nothing new about this, so what is this? And why is it not a rival?
  
  
  
  
• I did once leave SA:MP, yes, but that was 6 years ago - get over it!
  
  

• He doesn't believe I'm capable of adding major new features. Of course he isn't adding any either, and actually doesn't believe there are any to be added, so why would that matter?
  
  
• He wanted a plan. My main priorities were to fix bugs, improve the obvious gaps in the API, and create a better platform for other languages - i.e. a proper C/plugin API. Not even difficult tasks and ones I've more than shown I'm capable of. But apparently that doesn't qualify as a plan.
  
  
• In his words exactly "they don't deserve it". That's what he thinks of this community that apparently I am the one trying to split up, and the idea of someone trying to carry it on.
  
  

(2019-04-13, 04:01 PM)Y_Less Wrote: He doesn't believe I'm capable of adding major new features. ?Of course he isn't adding any either, and actually doesn't believe there are any to be added, so why would that matter?

(2019-04-13, 04:23 PM)adri1 Wrote: I think it's great that you create a community different from SA-MP. But I think that has not been the problem.

You were given the rank of beta tester recently in forums (so Kalcor trusted you) when you and others have that project in secret, you should have rejected the rank.

I do not think anything would have happened if instead of throwing shit at Kalcor, you would have simply said: Hey look, we are developing a new multiplayer!

You literally said: "kalcor is killing sa-mp, come to my new mp mod"

I think it was the disappointment of people he trusted that made him take the decision of the massive ban.

Sorry for my english.

(2019-04-13, 04:23 PM)adri1 Wrote: I think it's great that you create a community different from SA-MP. But I think that has not been the problem.



You were given the rank of beta tester recently in forums (so Kalcor trusted you) when you and others have that project in secret, you should have rejected the rank.



I do not think anything would have happened if instead of throwing shit at Kalcor, you would have simply said: Hey look, we are developing a new multiplayer!



You literally said: "kalcor is killing sa-mp, come to my new mp mod"



I think it was the disappointment of people he trusted that made him take the decision of the massive ban.



Sorry for my english.

(2019-04-13, 07:45 PM)Justus Wrote: SAMP is kye's project yeah, it's his, but even he must admit it's grew far bigger than just him, there's thousands of communities and hours put into the mod and with that perhaps he isn't the best to lead such a large community as it has now become. Onwards and upwards, this looks really promising. Will this be open source?